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Chair Nutting: We’ll bring the Municipal Facilities Committee meeting to order. First order of business is the approval of minutes.
Committee Member: So moved.
Committee Member: Second.
Chair Nutting: Minutes approved. Second order of business is the marina presentation about dry stack storage facility.
Scott Wilkins: Thank you Chair Nutting, council members. Scott Wilkins and Katie from the Marina. We’re going to give you a short presentation on the dry stack facility. We’re moving forward with our current CIP project, the L, M, and N dock. We’re hoping to get that out to bid in the next few weeks.
There’s been a lot of curiosity regarding dry stacks, so we wanted to inform Council that it’s still a CIP project involved with the all-purpose building project. We’re hoping to spend money next year in 2025 to start some engineering and design work.
Most of you probably don’t know dry stack isn’t a new concept for the marina. It was presented back in 2003 – 21 years ago. The former Harbor Master presented to council with renderings and costs. At that time, Council decided not to move forward.
While pricing and designs have evolved, the core concept remains the same. We’re unable to expand our Marina property in water. To the south, we have tide lands and the yacht club. To the west, the water’s too deep – it’s DNR property. To the north, we get into Normy Park, stormwater, sewer outfalls, eel grass, and other constraints.
Our piece of property is our piece of property. The right thing to do is take advantage of our uplands and build a dry stack storage. It’s the most efficient and profitable option. Katie’s going to explain about financials.
Katie: We took a tour to different dry stack facilities throughout the Puget Sound area, from Tacoma to Anacortes. From our 2022 numbers, building costs including the tilt-up structure, launch platform, wash-down area, and forklift would be roughly $5-6 million.
Annual expenses, including two full-time employees plus utilities and water, would be about $200,000 per year. However, revenue is estimated at about a million dollars a year – about $250,000 more than we currently make on our dry sheds and three smallest covered slips.
Committee Member: Your waiting lists on boats over 40 feet are ridiculously long, right?
Scott Wilkins: Yes, there’s a few lists that are definitely longer than others. The longest list now is around four or five years, mainly for larger boats.
The dry stack revenue would help until we can fund removing some smaller slips to put in larger slips. The building itself can make up to about a million dollars. In the future, when funding is available, we’ve talked about that all-purpose building being incorporated off the dry stack toward the west and water.
Committee Member: So there’s possibility of additional revenue – if it’s $250,000 more than now in the dry stack, how much is estimated for the larger boat slips?
Katie: A 50-foot boat slip dock will bring in approximately $400,000. When we’re financially able to do that, we’ll be removing three smaller docks that are being accounted for in the dry stack. We’re still supporting the small boater but gaining another 50-foot dock.
Committee Member: So we’re talking about $650,000 in new revenue?
Katie: Yes.
Committee Member: Is there a projected timeline on return on investment?
Scott Wilkins: We’d need to get Jeff, our finance director, involved. Right now we’re taking on serious debt for the L, M, and N dock project, which is going to pretty much tap out the marina for debt service. Until we can pay that down somewhat to borrow money, that timeline is unknown.
It’s one reason we were entertaining selling a spot for a hotel – we would have gotten funding to start this project. Any extra funding we can find is money we can use for this project to increase marina revenues.
Committee Member: Do we have the utilities and infrastructure in the marina that will support dry stack storage?
Scott Wilkins: Yes, we would update the 2003 fire suppression systems. The fire district gave us the okay. A dry stack doesn’t take much – just a little power. We hope to do solar or big skylights. Heat would be nice if we could bring down a gas line because then people wouldn’t have to winterize their vessels.
The costly part would be supplying space near the dry stack for boat washing, maintenance, motor flushing. We’d need oil water separators and a containment area. That’d be expensive but necessary.
Committee Member: Have we done an economic impact study on what the increased facilities would have on the city? Is this expected to increase demand for provisioners?
Scott Wilkins: We haven’t done a formal study. The National Marine Trade Association has done studies and held conferences on dry stack back in 2012. This gives people space to get back on the water when they can’t store boats at home.
Committee Member: Given the difficulty getting permits for water work, conservatively you’re saying 7-12 months to 2 years possibly? And this assumes building the dry stack before restructuring the piers?
Scott Wilkins: The way things work, I would estimate under five years. But we’d also have to wait until we have the bond capacity.
Committee Member: That’s what I was going to say – it’s all dependent on what the marina can afford.
Chair Nutting: Is that it? Motion to adjourn?
Committee Member: So moved.
Committee Member: Second.
Chair Nutting: Meeting’s adjourned. Thank you very much for your presentation.
According to State law, the City is required to have a draft budget ready to go on October 1st. Here is the announcement to the City Council from Interim City Manager Tim George.
Des Moines Submitted Budget October 1, 2024
Mayor and Councilmembers,
In compliance with state law, the attached budget was provided to the City Clerk yesterday. This is a balanced budget for 2025-26. In order to do this we made the budget adjustments listed below which provided approximately 3.44 million in either budget cuts or new revenue. This left us with a shortfall of $836k in 2025 and $1.6 million in 2026. To cover that gap, this budget proposes blanket staff reductions from each department based on their proportionate share of the total budget. This strategy is not ideal and is only being used as a placeholder while we continue to develop the budget over the next few months and then as we make amendments in 2025 and beyond. All of this information will be presented in greater detail tomorrow night at the Study Session.
On September 12, 2024 we voted 4-3 to approve renewing Peter Philips ferry consulting contract.
I would encourage everyone, regardless of their POV on the ferry, to watch the above portion of the meeting because one of the most common questions I get from residents is that they aren’t sure where my colleagues land on various issues. I think this 20 minutes represents the philosophy of each of us very clearly–at least when it comes to ‘economic development’. It’s the ‘debate’ a lot of people have told me they wish they could see before they voted.
There were many reasons for me to be dis-chuffed.
“…The connection between Des Moines and Artemis, and my role in that connection is to encourage Artemis to locate their US production facility here, providing local jobs, and investing in local workforce development…”
News to me! The Council has never had any discussion concerning any negotiation to bring Artemis (a Northern Ireland company) to Des Moines.
All that ‘good government’ jazz aside, there is also the small matter that the whole thing has always been, and continues to be, insane.
That 2020 Diedrich RPM Passenger Ferry Research Report was more like a ‘how to market the idea of a ferry’, not a true demand analysis. There have been demand analyses by King County and PSRC, and they have all demonstrated that the demand is simply not there.)
From the City’s fiscal point of view, a ‘vibrant downtown’ can be boiled down to one word: tourism. Every dollar we spend on ferries and Steps and alleys and so on should be measured against the money it will generate and on what time scale. That sounds complicated but it’s not. Here’s almost everything you need to know about our downtown. Three cents.
It takes $1,000,000 in retail sales for the City of Des Moines to retain $30,000 in sales tax. Three cents on the dollar. So a restaurant has to sell $1,000,000 in food to generate $30,000 for the City. Simple.
But the real question is, how much money should the City invest to increase that retail activity, and what do we get in return? That too is simple. Here are some examples:
Here’s another stat: The total amount of ‘restaurant’ sales tax the City collected in 2023, not just in the downtown but in the entire City? $415,000.
That’s about one percent of the amount we’ve already spent on downtown redevelopment. It will take 100 years to recoup our costs.
Starting to get the picture? If you’re counting on tourism to create long-term fiscal solvency, it is a fool’s errand. It is impossible.
In 2019, Councilmember Mahoney said this:
In 2021, the Council voted to give SR3 $75,000 of ARPA money during the pandemic. But using the three cents formula, it would take $2,500,000 in ‘eco-tourism’ to recoup just that money.
It will take about $350,000,000 in retail sales to recoup just the money the City has already spent on the Ferry, Backstage Alley, SR3, and the Marina Steps. That’s not a typo. That’s over Three Hundred And Fifty Freakin’ Million dollars of retail sales!
So even if SR3 had (or will) bring ‘tens of thousands of eco-tourists to our downtown’. Even if the ferry does everything supporters hope it will Even if the Marina Steps is a beloved upgrade to the Marina. Even if the theatre is constantly rocking. And even if the magic developer fairy swoops down from Valhalla and plops a different and engaging type of restaurant onto every empty bit o’ property and provides convenient underground parking (using her magic boring tool) the cumulative effect will never pay for itself or bring the City of Des Moines budget into the black and guarantee the recommended 16.67% Reserve Balance!
That’s easy. All of the above are fun! It’s easy to talk people into believing something that they really, Really, REALLY, want to believe. And who wants to vote against seals and theatres and ferries and splash pads?
For some people ‘Edmonds in Des Moines’ is as irresistible as decaf as good as the real thing. Or a Diet Coke that tastes like a Mexican Coke. Or how ‘a sensible diet and walking will make all those extra pounds just melt away? THEY DON’T! IT’S IMPOSSIBLE! GET OVER IT! 😀
All you have to do to sell people is to not provide the above numbers. Dreams are wonderful. Numbers are a total buzzkill.
Mayor Buxton spoke about a concept called place making. At the September 12 meeting she pulled out her phone and exhorted the audience to type ‘placemaking economic development’ into their browser’s search.
In fact, please do ‘Google’ those keywords and let me know what you think. But fwiw… here’s one of the first page results I got. I assume no relation. 😀
Placemaking as an Economic Development Strategy – Blog (buxtonco.com)
$350,000,000 is an awful lot to ask of ‘placemaking’.
And I object to her mentioning former Councilmember Susan White’s support of a ferry program back in the 2000s. I remember it well. What Mayor Buxton failed to mention is that both the State and the County and the PSRC have repeatedly been highly critical of passenger ferry service in Des Moines. The demand just isn’t there. If the County now wants to use Des Moines as a beta-test for electric ferries at some point in the future for whatever reason, groovy! But stop talking about it as some big ‘economic driver’. At best, a ferry would be no more of an economic driver than the 635 shuttle bus. Nice. But not exactly a game changer.
Nobody wants a great downtown more than me. I’m pretty sure I’m the only member of the Council in living memory that’s actually owned a restaurant.
But to get to where people want to go, we need money to balance the books every year. And to get some, we have to stop thinking of ‘tourism’ (which is what ‘ferry’ and ‘steps’ and ‘placemaking’ are really about) as being crucial to our economic or transportation success. It can’t be.
Instead, we have to look elsewhere for the recurring revenue to balance the books.
Ironically, finding better sources of funding will allow us the freedom to create a for-realz local business development plan. Such an approach has worked successfully for Burien, Ballard, and Columbia City, among others. None of those programs required any magic bullet. They just required the tools of bottom-up business recruitment, marketing and retention. Not “If you build it they will come” magical thinking.
On the other hand, maybe I’m being totally unfair. So I’ll try to make the steel-man argument for the majority. Maybe placemaking is about far more than just tourism or the downtown. Maybe restaurants are the appetizer and not the entree. Maybe if we invest in the ferry, the theatre, SR3, the Steps, etc. the whole will be greater than the sum of the parts. Given enough time, by doing all these projects, maybe we will reach a ‘tipping point’ that signals to major developers, people who previously avoided us, to now look at Des Moines in a whole new way! For example, as he wrote in that letter, maybe Peter Philips can convince the ferry builder in Belfast to locate a U.S. factory in Des Moines! Maybe in the new ‘Innovation District’! And maybe this new factory will employ hundreds of people! People who buy houses in Des Moines! And maybe all those employees will head down the hill into the downtown every day to eat lunch! Just like they’ve been doing since the FAA building opened!
NOT. 😀
Sorry, I tried playing it straight for as long as I could. But this is exactly the pitch former Mayors used to sell the Des Moines Creek Business Park– a total loser, both for the City, our environment, and for local businesses. But even if all that magical thinking turned out to be true? We’re still talking decades down the road. And we need revenue streams now.
Which is where I started in opposing the ferry.
I have no objection to any of these very fun things, so long as they are not distractions from the real work we’ve needed to do for a very long time. As we’ve learned, we are extremely limited in resources funds and we must use those resources to their greatest advantage.
I resent wasting so much time, energy, and money on ideas that have been based on fibs, have no business plan, little chance of ever meeting our broader economic development needs, and most importantly: no chance of paying off in the near future. It’s the same movie I’ve seen many times before.
And it’s especially infuriating given the fiscal urgency of the moment.
All these fun things are great. But they can’t even pay for themselves let alone fund the City. At some point we need to say “Stop with all the distractions!” We need business revenue solutions now.
Over the past two decades, the City has played on various longstanding dreams and vanities of the community to avoid building that business revenue. We have approached economic development like a much wealthier community than we actually are. Instead, we should be approaching economic development using the bottom-up strategies that have actually worked for other communities.