Welcome to the CAB. This body is now officially called ‘Citizens Advisory Board’. I only vaguely recall a discussion at the City Council Meeting where a resident felt that the acronym ‘CAC’ had an unpleasant sound. Which is weird because at the state level there was a second airport committee, the CACC for several years, and no one seemed to cough up a fur ball over it. Anyhoo, I guess someone then took it upon themselves to make it official. What is confusing is that the agenda file is ‘citizens advisory committee’, the video is titled ‘citizens advisory committee’, and the attendees also go back and forth during the video.
Citizens Advisory Board 25 Jun 2025 – Agenda
Citizens Advisory Board PowerPoint
Edit June 29, 2025 The following transcript is V2. I asked the AI to try again based on an error report I heard about on Thursday. For those interested in how the process works read this.
Transcript
HARRY STEINMETZ (Deputy Mayor, presiding): We will call the meeting of the citizens advisory board the CAB to order. It is June 25th, 2025, and will the clerk take role?
BONNIE WILKINS (Director of Administrative Services): Do you have a list or I do have a list okay yeah just introduce then we’ll go around the table. We do have two visitors tonight who may be official as of tomorrow night maybe, maybe well we don’t know but Susan White is going to be nominated as an at-large member and Lisa Frans is going to be nominated as the Redondo member for tomorrow night that’s at least the plan so Lin you want to just introduce yourself?
LIN CASHMAN: Can you please remember well sorry yes please no one will hear you otherwise we’ll hear you but no one else will. My name is Lin Cashman, I live in the Marina District and I’m a former member of the Human Services Committee and I hope to once again be on the subcommittee for human services.
CORINNE ANDERSON KETCHMARK: Corinne Anderson Ketchmark and I am on have been on this human services committee for the last four or five years and hope to serve again.
VICTORIA ANDREWS: Victoria Andrews I was representing the Marina District, I hope to do the central district or at large or something thank you.
MARIELLE: I’m Marielle and Laren I represent the central district.
RICK LIGHT: Rick Light and I am Mary Ellen’s backup so far my best man.
BETTINA CARREY: Bettina Carrey for the Marina District.
CHARLENE BALCAZO: Charlene Balcazo business owner.
JEFF CROMPE: Jeff Crompe senior services committee.
RANDY RICHARDS: Randy Richards the Marina District I live at the Adriana Senior Apartments. You couldn’t hear that we can hear you we can hear you but it is being recorded. Can you hear me now? Randy Richards I live at the Adriana Senior Citizen Apartments run bingo on Wednesday nights, Pinochle on Fridays. If you remember Julie from the Loveboat I’m kind of like the cruise director down there so I’m happy to be here. I’ve been with Jeff on it’s the newly now it’s a citizens advisory board senior Citizens Senior Citizens Advisory Board so happy to be here.
COLLEEN GANTZ: I’m Colleen Gantz with the Zenith Neighborhood.
AILEEN EVANS: I’m Aileen Evans with Senior Services.
BONNIE: I’m Bonnie Wilkins I am the director of administrative services here at the city of Des Moines and I am filling in for Tavon who will be your staff liaison. She had a pre-planned vacation and so I happily volunteered and I promised her I would barely make any real commitments for her that will be really hard for her to commit to.
TRACI BUXTON (Mayor): And Traci Buxton is our mayor.
HARRY: And one more member coming in just we’ll give her a chance to sit down and just so everybody knows Jean Oxinger is not able to make it tonight and he’s not feeling well and we do have one other visitor. Pierre you want to introduce yourself?
PIERRE BOSS: Hi I’m Pierre Boss I’m just a visitor here member of the public just want to see what this meeting is about and learn more about what you guys do here.
MAGDALENA: And Magdalena just introducing ourselves hello everyone my name is Magda oh my name is Magda and I represent the South Des Moines.
HARRY: Thank you. Okay and everybody should have an agenda in front of them and just a reminder to everybody to turn your placard up that way if you want to talk and then we’ll try to turn it down. Yeah okay that was next and I do want to welcome everybody because this is sort of the brand new reconstituted no longer called the citizens advisory committee but it is the citizens advisory board because it’s easier to say CAB than CAC and so we have that and I would like to thank everybody who reapplied re-upped. We will be addressing that tomorrow night at the city council meeting to reappoint everybody and per our discussions of that and then there’ll be we did get two new applications Lisa France and Susan White and we expect that they will be approved to become members of the board so they were invited to attend tonight’s meeting in anticipation of that.
Can I ask what area do they represent Lisa and Susan? Well they I’m going to be a large member although I live in and Lisa would… Yeah microphones and and Chuck Coleman withdrew his application in favor of Lisa when he found out that she applied and thought that would be a way to get somebody new so thank you very much.
So tonight we’re going to sort of do the overview of the citizens advisory board making sure and Bonnie’s going to lead us through that discussion making sure that we have constituted the citizens advisory board in the way that we have talked about before and anybody that has any additional input now is the time because this is going to be reduced to code in the Des Moines city code and this is what Terry gets to do when she gets back because she’s one of the city attorneys so and then we have two other matters to talk about and we’ll go from there so Bettina yes.
BETTINA: When I do the math it’s 14 not 12 is that going to change?
HARRY: I don’t know. Oh but the at-large at-larges are also 12 regular members which are the neighborhood representatives and then as many at-large members as want to be on as at-large members and then I didn’t hear anybody from the North Hill community specifically North Hill. Let me take a look here north Hill we do have two individuals who did apply Justin Purle for North Hill and Harpreet Kaur for a business owner so they aren’t here tonight but they’re up for appointment for tomorrow and then there are vacancies Marina Tenant there’s a vacancy in the Marina Tenant just well whatever the you know the seat package Pacific Ridge and then the North Central Des Moines area which is kind of over in this area over here so we have openings for those which if any of the at-large members live in that area they can you know be on that in that neighborhood but I don’t think any of the at-large members live there so we will be actively recruiting for those three open positions after tomorrow’s appointment as well as just any at-large members who want to just join and be an at-large member and we can have as many of those as well yeah we don’t want to have too many. Oh okay we did talk about capping that at one point then we maybe we can talk about that for Yep but that that should be part of this discussion because we did that was part of the discussion last month oh Bettina and then we should always keep it odd to make sure for voting purposes it should always be an odd number not a not a I think we all qualify as odd that’s hairy humor.
Well the at-large the at-large members would also be voting members so yeah my question what’s that the at-large will be voting members be my question yes so my question is does the regular members include the subcommittee members or is that separate subcommittee members are at large members so at large per like Lin for instance she’s an at-large member and she wants to just serve on a subcommittee and that’s perfectly fine okay that that would be in my case if you wanted to do the same you could just you at-large me you’re a voting member of this board but then you can just serve on you know in your seat that’s comfortable for you your participation the level of your participation is up to you the idea was to keep people involved in what they were doing and you want to expand that’s great okay.
LIN: Yeah my understander in earlier was that the at-large members didn’t have a vote right but we are but you’ve changed so the at-large will correct at-large members will have a vote okay so that could get pretty large if you say it could be as many people as you want okay.
HARRY: That’s that’s exactly why we want to have that discussion tonight and see what the board wants to do we do have a few things to ask of the committee or the board what are there two additional subcommittees when will they be implemented they’re not on here now but what’s the time frame for that they are the subcommittees are the arts human service and senior services subcommittee I thought there was a airport one and Oh those are separate so those are completely Yeah so we have an airport committee that we just formed and we’re planning or we’re working on a planning committee that we are forming and so council because of all of that council you know a few meetings ago came up with the citizens advisory board and within that are the subcommittees so members be able to part of that if they wanted to participate yes and we’ll have some questions to ask as to how many people could be on a subcommittee and that will be up to you all to decide how many and we’ll work through that in a little bit. My question it’s probably maybe it’s your question too but so you can be on the planning committee you can be on the airport committee you can be on this committee you can be on the subcommittees there’s no restrictions at this point at this point okay that will be council’s decision moving forward if if they’re going to allow other committee members to serve on other committees.
JEFF: So you were saying that everyone will be a voting member so if there were say six people on senior services human services and arts commission that would be 18 more voting people.
HARRY: No and we and we have some questions to ask you about how many are going to serve on those subcommittees but basically you all are voting members the subcommittee is just that going and working on an issue perhaps human services is a great example the applications will come in those individuals who are on that subcommittee will work on that project bring it back to the board the rest of the board and collectively you all decide based on the recommendations from the subcommittee who will receive funding from you know the council will approve all of that but who will receive funding for the next two-year financial cycle and then you all will vote as a one board group but the subcommittee will do all the leg work and do all you know all the backend stuff and bring it to the collective board for a group for a vote and there are still the voting members let me let me just kind of clarify then that subcommittee membership is only from people who are on correct the citizens advisory board they’re not additional people correct they are only people on this board that choose to be on those subcommittees so will that make the subcommittees rather small that’s what we need that’s one of the things we’re going to discuss may or may not depending on who wants to serve on a subcommittee so I want to make sure I understand the voting process and that because the human services they make recommendations and in the past it’s gone directly to city council for approval what you’re saying is there will be another process another voting process before it gets to the city council or a consensus or Yes another layer another layer exactly. We’ll see how that works.
JEFF: And Eddie Duggar just joined us thank you Eddie just to make sure no I’m just saying it out loud so it gets recorded welcome all right go ahead.
BONNIE: Great thank you Harry this is just a really quick slide just to kind of recap what you all have been talking about the last couple meetings and what council voted on a couple meetings ago I’m just going to zip on through that real quick so here we have kind of an overview of the board’s terms duties and requirements just so you all know after tomorrow’s appointments we need to stagger the initial terms one group is going to be two-year one group is going to be four-year and we will just pull names out of a hat to determine that and the reason for that is we cannot have you all term out at the same time and we’ve had that on a different committees before in the past when I was a clerk it was kind of a little bit of a nightmare and we’ve had to extend terms and get all kind of crazy through that so this will be very clean and hopefully as fair as we can make it but we will determine that once the appointments are made by council tomorrow night and then we’ll let you all know and we’ll give you a new roster and all you’ll have nice new name tags and all that kind of fun stuff so but that will be the first thing that we’ll do once the appointments are made tomorrow is determine who’s a two and four year so when you just you just use the term one group will be two years one group will be four years is that by the in Half of you I guess is what I should have said okay right by individual committee yeah people half of you half of you will be want two of your right right because if it was by group everybody in one group would be expiring at the same time I’ve Yeah you will learn I will say things and you’ll be like and it will be like matter of semantics okay yeah it’s half of you will be a two-year term half of you will be four-year term and after that everybody will be a four-year term after that everybody will be a four-year term so once the two-year term out you reapply you’ll be a four-year term and so so forth we we have to do it that way because otherwise like I said you’ll all turn out and it will it will not work we want Welcome Martin how you doing that’s okay that I get it thanks for Sorry can you introduce yourself again oh he needs the microphone so let’s Oh there you go.
BARTON DELACY: I probably don’t need a mic Barton DeLacy from Woodmont but I’ve come with Jeff Crompe and friends from the senior services committee thank you Barton thank you.
BETTINA: There might be people who only want to serve two years or own you know like they want to serve the lower level is there a way for them to communicate that and be have their name specifically put in there.
BONNIE: Absolutely email me by tomorrow because we want to do this on Friday to get at the get get everything rolling so email me by tomorrow and I can go get you my my cards and bring them to you after this let me know if you want to be a two-year only and then we will half of you will we’ll move them in the mix.
GLEN: When you talked about the two or four year terms how many terms can a person is there a limit on number of terms like human service commission you can only serve two terms I believe it was two two year terms but on these will there be you said somebody could reapply how many terms can they serve.
BONNIE: That is up to you all that’s part of the code that that Tara will be working on so it’s not a specific question she asked me to ask you all but I can put that in that you know you all want to know how many terms you can serve so does this apply to just the cab or and or the the subcommittees it is just the cab it’s all about the cab the subcommittees are part of the cab so it doesn’t I’m sorry Harry it doesn’t matter if you serve in that’s you are here and then you just hang out down here but you are part of the cab okay the clarification and maybe we’ll get to this I’ll wait till we get to on your last sheet for discussion and feedback you talk about the subcommittees and talking about every two years whatever so does this really apply to subcommittees or should we be discussing it as a separate issue this is a separate issue so let’s wait so we can wait and do that later okay thank you you’re welcome.
CORINNE: Okay see I’m good at looking this is a great way to do it and Lin and Lin okay okay great and of course again you’re going to advise issues delegated by council encourage all the participation from the public you’re going to meet at least three times a year one of them will be on the budget you’ll have a planning retreat and then other issues that come up from council and three council members will be attending and the mayor and the deputy mayor will preside over just the same stuff that’s kind of been from the past what’s changed can I go back yeah and and when it says attended by three council me three council members are appointed to attend that doesn’t mean they’ll be here every time correct so the fact that Jean’s not here tonight does not invalidate the meeting correct I just want to make sure that that’s that that’s clear and the minimum is three because we have three particular things topics that the cab can meet about and then if we want to meet monthly that’s great but it’s up to every it’s up to the cabin then you might want to change the language attended by at least three council members that applies so maybe change the wording there well as part of a public open public meeting all council members can attend just three are kind of the liaisons so to speak for may as this is this is not code language okay yeah that’ll that’ll get clarified as the lawyers get very specific in writing the code but no there was never any I’ll make a note of that intention for that to be a minimum number yeah so great thank you.
What’s changed on here I think you guys talked about this at your last meeting was we added a December date and took out the August date and we also added up there that updates to the city’s new website design and the strategic plan are expected we just don’t have a date on those particular items just yet and we’ll plunk them in as soon as we do and I think you guys talked about your your work work plan for the next year and the rest of this year actually and then here is where we need your help so as we were talking about subcommittees I am going to pass out one of these little teeny little pieces of paper to each of you what I forgot to put is a name so if you would please put your name because otherwise I will not know who you are but I would we would like it if you could list your top which one you wanted to be in first your second choice of your committee subcommittee and your third if you want to be on a subcommittee if you don’t no worries you don’t have to that way when we are once we’ve determined the code we can then say okay you know your first choice is this and we’ll do our best to get that to you but if it’s already full then we’ll go to your second choice and third so I’ll go ahead and pass these out and thank you so much and so the first question that we have for you is is five a sufficient minimum number of a subcommittee member to achieve the subcommittee’s intended purpose so Jeff.
JEFF: Jeff do you have a number that you can give us now as to how many people applied to be on the subcommittees.
BONNIE: There are no applications for subcommittees right well I mean the people that sent ination that said they wanted to be on Health and Human Services they senior arts commission they they don’t that’s not how it works that’s not what we asked for nobody applied to be on senior services arts commission or human services this year they are But I thought that’s what she’s just asking for right now we’re asking the CAB board members what their choices are to be on subcommittees and you’re right Jeffy when you wrote in you you said you would prefer to some of you said you’d prefer to serve on the senior services subcommittee which is great but you’re still a CAB board member right and you don’t have to come to the CAB meetings if you don’t want to you can just only if you’re on a subcommittee you can just do that work or you can come to the whole thing and participate in all of it right you can do all some little medium whatever is best for you and it’s it’s very very very confusing I understand that so if you and and we kind of know who wants to be on what committee so we will work behind the scenes to try to get you all where you want to And as a subcommittee member sorry wanted to mention people are getting a hard time wrapping themselves around who’s on what where because of the old way you did it just think of it as the cab is a pool of people yeah great and then they designate if they want to go be on a subcommittee but the cab is the cab yeah or not be on subcommittee so this is for subcommittees only subcommittees only got it yeah if you want to serve on a subcommittee in addition to serving as a cab member because you are a cab member all of you are cab members or will be after they’re appointed tomorrow but you want to dive in deeper and you want to serve on a subcommittee and do other work in addition to what’s on that work plan or you don’t want to do anything on the work plan but you want to do that then yeah oh if you’re a cab member only you would either be for one of the districts or you’d be an at-large being in a district or an at-large really does not have a difference if you’re just a cab member you you’re tied to a neighborhood but you we kind of think of it as you know you’re going to talk to your neighbors but you really could talk to another neighborhood if they have no representation perhaps Pacific Ridge doesn’t have anybody and you know there’s no saying you can’t as a marina district or a central or or a Woodmont to go out and talk to package people so you might appoint three people to one particular district you have from the way it’s been approved if you live in that area you become a neighborhood representative but at large members there’s no less voting or no less responsibility for being a neighborhood member or an at-large member it’s just you live in a particular neighborhood so you have a passion to represent that neighborhood but an at-large member could also have a passion and go represent that neighborhood if they want let me let me think about it this way the starting point is every neighborhood got a representative plus business plus marine tenants that’s the starting point of the pool we wanted to make sure it was inclusive enough to capture people like you who are already on a functioning committee senior services to be part of the cab so essentially you’re an at-large member or would be because of that previous relationship to the city and advisory and so that’s why the at-large member is a little bit more expansive more elastic as to what it is so there could be five people on the tab that are all from the Marina district correct yep okay well they could live there yeah they could they could be there they wouldn’t be the representative from there but and we have kind of that already now we have a few people who live in the same neighborhood and we have one member who’s the representative and then the at-large members and then we brought up before that you could potentially be on more than one subcommittee so will the council tomorrow night possibly appoint someone to be on more than one committee council won’t be appointing anybody to subcommittees that is what the cab will do you will define your own subcommittees.
VICTORIA: Question that too if we pick two in in order of preference will we be assigned is there a chance we would be assigned two we if you don’t want to serve on two is there a chance you’d be appointed to two that is up to the cap okay well what I was asked by Tara is we like to keep it to one person per subcommittee at this time until everybody’s had their chance to get on to a subcommittee and then if everybody’s had the chance to get on subcommittee I mean maybe maybe you don’t want to be on a subcommittee and you know but maybe you do and so once we’ve determined who does and who doesn’t and then if there’s still open seats and you want to serve on another one we can say Victoria we’ve asked everybody and you know we have two openings on arts do you want to serve on that and then if you’re already in human services or senior services you could say yes but we want to give everybody a fair chance to serve on a committee that they find that they are passionate about.
CORINNE: So when I applied I don’t know five six years ago to be on a human service human services committee I did that based on the qualifications I had are that is that going to be considered in terms of what qualifications we have to be able to serve on these committees that would be up to the cab.
Wow okay.
HARRY: Okay first everybody gets a chance before they just a little bit microphone please sorry since this committee is going to be designing that process you’re going to have a strong voice in being able to say this is how it should be when you when this when this committee decides how the the human services subcommittee will operate you know what you you guys who do it and you senior service people you just write in there and say “This is how I should be.” And everybody I’m guessing you’re going to have a strong knowledgeable voice you’ll you’ll be a major force informing how that will happen.
LIN: Yeah my question just for clarification you’re saying tomorrow night the council is going to approve the I guess not the appointments but this process and that the cab will the cab will decide on the human service or the committee members when is that going to happen council will approve the appointments tomorrow to the cab to the cap and but what about the subcommittee and then in let’s see here it doesn’t say up there I don’t know you I don’t know what happened last meeting but subcommittee structure was going to be this meeting yeah so before the before tonight’s over we’re going to make a decision if we if we have time okay that’s fine I I love the idea and experienced people who are already members of the subcomm will we sort of be interviewed in other words are we going to say here are the credentials that I offer for this particular subcommittee I hope you will allow me to serve on it because we certain around this room and we all know who we are because we’ve been on this committee for a while but you newer folks don’t know who we are and I just hope that there will be a a welcoming blend of experienced shoot oh I didn’t that whole thing was just lost I hope there will be a welcoming blend of experienced and new energy provided by people who want to serve and are willing to come up to speed as quickly as c as can and we will prove ourselves or not before you if you get get what I’m going for but if if if this doesn’t happen tonight this is going to be a lengthy process I would imagine pardon microphone can we microphone thank you sorry.
All right is there any reason we it it sounds like the human services committee is most concerned about getting reappointed or doing that and since it’s up to the cab to among ourselves decide that why couldn’t we take time tonight to identify the human services and perhaps resolve that tonight those that want to be there a couple of us are here from senior services and I’ve was appointed to the airport advisory and and that would be I would volunteer to liaise regarding that as as a choice one and step aside to let anybody else who wanted to come into senior services senior services would be my second choice if you needed somebody or where wherever else but wouldn’t it seem appropriate tonight to maybe let’s focus on those who want to be on human services since that seems to be the choke point that would be great but we need to figure out by per code if you need if you want it to be a minimum of five and a maximum of nine for the subcommittee and once we determine that then we can determine how many people can serve and that’s what Tara needs for the code otherwise we’ll be here in this area yeah so then we c can we vote on on a number and move on and do that if we if we voted on a number and decided between So I move we we we start at five okay minimum of five you want to a minimum of five do we have a second yes Lin yes oh you didn’t second oh no Aileen Colleen second it okay okay okay and now Lin discussion i have no problem with five microphone microphone please sorry.
LIN: I definitely have no problem with the five i wouldn’t have any problem with you know six that’s a minimum minimum of five i know but I’m only concerned because you know the human services and maybe that’s why we’re speaking so much we’ve been a really active committee meeting you know every month and then every other month and then every month during applications so we’ve been very active and we have tried to get other members we’ve always said that four we need more than four and we could never get anyone and staff also tried to we all tried to encourage other people so I’m a little concerned if there’s only the four of us that were on it before that want to be on it again if we are the only ones a minimum of five would make us inactive so I’m only concerned for that reason if you have gotten applications for a fifth person that would be awesome or a sixth person you do tonight there’s two of us sitting here really you want to be on human services i think there are three all right oh that then I’m okay with the five but five is the minimum five is the That is the That is the motion before us we haven’t talked about maximum yet we’ll do that next five is the minimum anybody else have discussion on five being the minimum number on a committee.
BETTINA: Yes okay.
JEFF: Jeff microphone thank you sorry my comment is not about the five but it it seems like we might be putting the cart before the horse a little bit here because if we’re if all the people are going to be like if everybody in this room were appointed to the cab and obviously there’s people that aren’t here that are going to be appointed because everyone’s not here wouldn’t it be after we had the cab established that then we would establish the subcommittees well until we establish the subcommittees we can’t have them and then next month you’ll be back here having the same conversation and you do have a majority of there is a there is a majority here to determine the minimum and maximum and you don’t have to go with five you don’t have to go with nine you can do something different jeff isn’t this We have a forum okay a quorum and we can get a good start tonight and if somebody who’s not here wants to join later we can be flexible and they can come on later but let’s get that underway and and address the concerns of human services right now seems to be the sensitive point that’s holding things up so let’s get that done so so I just so you know I’m a Robert’s rules of order person and I feel like we have a motion on the on the floor and it is it it’s feeling very confusing to me about what our process is and I I think that what you’re saying is the cart before the horse is that do we have an established cab at this point in time does it need a vote what does it need in order so that it can be part of the code and then move to the to the subcommittees yes and what we have right now we do have valid citizens advisory committee members because that has the code hasn’t been written for the cab yet so they’re still functioning citizens advisory committee members so the previous one so you’re you’re forming a new one now forming a new one but we do have members from that committee here i’m not sure what that has to do with the new one the new one’s taking replacing that okay so has that been voted on yeah yes but the code hasn’t been written for the new cab yet so the citizens advisory committee.
HARRY: Let me let me clarify okay the council has voted to form the cab okay and has voted to the basic structure of the cab in terms of what was up there before the membership has not been approved yet okay it will be tomorrow night so that’s what the agenda right so I guess in one sense everything we’re doing tonight is sort of advisory but people wanted to keep working this year and that’s why we’re kind of being trying to move this process forward taking your input as to how to get this structured and still keep moving forward during the year rather than losing half the year right i understand so that’s that’s why we’re at where we’re at the motion right now is minimum numbers on the committee and that’s really the only thing and yes we we have people are bringing other things in but I’m trying to get to that so we need to vote on that motion minimum number okay on a subcommittee okay.
VICTORIA: Think of it this way we’re we’re all acting in good faith tonight assuming that tomorrow night we will be appointed so assuming that let’s get as much done as we can as as an advisory basis make as much progress as we can assuming that it’ll all work out in the end exactly the way we’re talking about it tonight that we care about it we’re all in and we’ll make good decisions tonight that will be advisory and then confirmed at a later date yes so the part that I find a little confusing is if we say okay there’s got to be five on the subcommittees like she said with and although there is extra people here like there was times over when I’ve been on the senior committee for the six years there were times we were down to three people so if it’s a minimum of five is it going to be up to the cab they’re going to have to say to somebody okay we’re drafting you you’re you’re now on the senior committee recruitment well not just recruitment but but maybe the minimum should be three.
HARRY: So my question is so the CAC is the short version the CAC is technically still in play and how many are from the CAC raise your hand so there’s enough of us here that are voting members of the CAC to move this thing along but the question becomes should not one of the CAC members then move the motion along and second it and have the discussion and all that we’re kind of at a point where we the voting members technically are only the CAC members in the moment even though we’re having this open discussion which we always had open discussions with even people that were sitting in the auditorium here so it seems to me that we have to kind of hit the refresh button do the first the second with the CAC members and then just proceed as a recommendation to the council tomorrow which they can then approve tomorrow even though we’re recommending it we’ll you know they’re going to approve it probably right so my two cents advisory council member are you making the motion for a minimum of five I make them he withdrew he withdrew it he withdrew it because he’s not a cat he’s not if we want he’s not a CAC member I just in order to move things along I am asking you if you will make that motion yeah you can do one and two together if you’d like hold on let me get back let me get you back okay this is a friendly amend amendment from my other CAC member is to to actually take it down to three because sometimes we only have three and we want that committee to actually be able to function even though it’s not ideal we want to have the the bigger number but we can do the second motion later so I’m going to is that is that your motion motion to have three as a sufficient minimum number of subcommittee members per subcommittee to achieve the subcommittee’s intended purpose second maximum second is there a second second thank you the word out do you want to make maximum part of do you want to make a maximum as part of that motion right now or not yes and as a maximum nine nine maximum for the subcommittee members okay and does everybody understand we just need a second second still second yeah okay okay rick still second okay I speak in favor of the motion on the floor thank you Traci did you have something you wanted to share it was clarification of the other conversations okay are you I’ll wait okay and Eddie had Eddie.
EDDIE DUGGAR: So how many com subcommittees at the time have more I don’t think we should go with a I like the idea of a minimum but I really don’t think we should set a maximum i mean maybe I don’t know but is there a committee that may have 10 people on it you don’t want to discourage the people that are on it already or that want to be on it we don’t senior services doesn’t Yeah but like the art commission I mean they need a lot of people to do what they do i I can tell you in my time there’s never been more than seven people on a committee okay yeah we have a motion on the floor are you four or against well we’ll do discussion and then we’ll have No just four against you have have to have a second motion a second and then discussion discussion so So Eddie again that was your Yeah that was my discussion point.
VICTORIA: Will I be allowed to vote as an expired CAC member?
HARRY: No technically no i if if we’re going just purely with who’s on the citizens advisory committee to be a voter then yeah if we’re going to go that way yes then you will just sorry give your input yeah but your input you can definitely have discussion.
Victoria do you have input on the motion okay any other discussion all right so the motion is minimum of three maximum of nine all those in favor that’s all of you two three four five six seven eight were you voting it was unanimous i’m on the committee right you’re not a voting member but I think we’re a voting member but thank you should be seven of you one two three four five six seven yeah okay okay perfect great thank you so much.
Now the next question should a subcommittee be reconstituted every two years in the interest of fairness so while you will serve a four-year term once we’re going do you think every two years we should reevaluate the subcommittees to make sure that people who maybe are coming on at large members or what have you they have a chance to serve on the subcommittee.
TRACI: So I wanted to take this little break between motions for clarification okay the job of the advisory but now what we’ve done the job of the senior services whatever so if you put in perspective when you join this body that’s part of your work whether you serve on those subcommittees or not you’re going to be making decisions that those sub that is part of work on this committee so when you join you’re going to make decisions about those subjects I’m hoping we get enough people that want to do the work too but I hope that that’s a very helpful clarification because I wasn’t real sure about that but the other issue the other question that’s on the table is about two years and what I can tell you from my experience it took two about two years for me to get up to speed because of understanding not only the process but in terms of making those decisions and recommendations so I would recommend at least a three to four year.
HARRY: Yeah I think it’s it’s not being clear what I read here doesn’t say anything about how long the term of the subcommittee members would be but I heard you say Bonnie that subcommittee members would be four-year terms committee members cab members right remember in the middle or the beginning some of you will serve initially right two some will serve four but the subcommittee do you want it to be a two-year term a four-year term a three a you know I think it should be a four-year term i do too i think it should be the same as the cab because it does take that continuity.
BETTINA: I’d like to make a motion that the committee be a four-year term do I have a second second.
HARRY: So we had staggering so will that be a staggered four years or how will that work i’m talking about subcommittee this is it in my mind this is why you might want to revisit it every two years so that you get a little staggering in there because if people are coming on for a four-year term and then their whole four years are on that committee and then they move on then you don’t have any carryover so it would so at least in my mind and I just it might be beneficial to revisit the constitution of each subcommittee every two years with an understanding that you do want some carryover so it as long as it’s understanding that you can be reappointed every two years yes that would be the intent can that be written in sure it’s part of and will will there will there be will will the will there be a limit is it a altogether a four-year term six-year term eight-year term as long as you’re a member of the cab I would imagine that would be the limiting factor yeah so eight years take some time off okay.
So Bettina thank you you you had yours up i I think you were accepting it as a friendly amendment can you It seems to me though it it seems to me now though that we’re asking Hang on a sec Jeff please okay well it my way sorry sorry i understand that and that’s why I was just trying to get to it are you wanting to defer to Jeff i’m going to accept the friendly amendment that we have a two-year excuse me a four-year term with a two-year what was your friendly amendment review review we need another citizens advisory board member to make that second you want to make that amen amendment i don’t I don’t quite understand okay yes I will how you how you so this is a new amendment or the amendment would be to have to reconstitute every four years in the interest of fairness okay with a two-year with a two-year review.
JEFF: I’d like to make a comment before that vote it seems to me that the CAC is now making decisions that the CAB should be making after they’re appointed no kind of yes you’re right so I think it’s irrelevant to have that discussion right now it needs to be done when the new board is in place however however we’re taking your input into consideration when we make these decisions we’re our amendments and our decisions are based on this input but it’s kind of like in the big picture your term is over tonight because you’re getting reappointed in theory tomorrow so why would we be having people the the the CAC making decisions for the cab except our our term isn’t over well not your term isn’t but it’s kind of like the whole thing’s changing the CA the cab might have different opinions this is this is the Yeah no it’s not the cab yet the opinions being expressed here in the room are the opinions of the people on the cab well in theory but it’s not official yet it’s kind of like you haven’t been elected yet and yet you’re making decisions for the electorate.
TRACI: But we’re just living in some reality with a bunch of people who only can gather once a month and we do want to facilitate forward of this so if we can lay down a little bit of that just to kind of try and exist in like real messy life things are messy but look at the reality of what’s going to happen i’m firing an earthquake or something tomorrow if we can lay that down a little bit if you can be comfortable with that we’re just trying to get work tonight is that.
HARRY: Well I mean overruled here a little bit but it just seems that the cab should be making these decisions not the current CAC i I’m gonna I’m going to repeat what Roberta Victoria has said this is a good faith effort and that’s what committees do unless they have legal authority and we don’t have legal authority we are in informal or not informal advisory and so this is good faith and I appreciate what you’re saying because we do need as much clarification as possible but this is good faith and so we’re going to let the the council city council make the make those decisions that need to be made based on our advice and I agree 100% and if for some reason on the very first meeting of the actual cab not there is disagreement about what we decide here tonight then we can decide it then and reverse everything that we decide tonight for that matter which I would hope not would happen but you know we’re we’re in a in a reality situation where the next meeting isn’t until July 30th 31st or whateverth or 30th and then we are essentially doing nothing all that time so I’d rather that we move forward with some activity and some clarity and if we need to revote on something or change it up when we officially are the cab that we can do it at that time yeah.
JEFF: If if there’s a substantive issue then I think this group can decide that and we can move forward i I I’m not sure what difference it all makes we’re we’re not we’re simply looking at numbers we’re not deciding policies we’re not deciding programs we’re just trying to get the structure set up to move forward.
LIN: Yeah tomorrow night is the main purpose for the council to make the appointments to are they also going to be approving the structure.
BONNIE: No new structure no tara has to work on the code so when Tara gets back from vacation she will put the code together bring it to council ordinance will come to council with the structure and then that’ll be approved so the council will be determining the structure so if the the cab when the new cab is is appointed and meet could they change the structure because you’re talking about when you mentioned you know we could change it if we want but it sounds like we really can’t that the council has approved it or could we change it and send it back to the council would that be how it be yeah I don’t sus I mean the next council meeting after tomorrow is July the 10th and then the 24th so I I don’t know Tara’s workload so I can’t speak to if she’ll have it done in time but you’ll know and you can have input yeah and then council can have that meeting hypothetically let’s say it’s going to come to council on the 24th of July and you don’t like what it looks like you can come to the meeting you can express your concerns and then council can at that point say “Staff I’d like you to go back and take another look at this with the cab members and make those changes.” Yeah so yeah you ultimately do have the last say in how it looks i mean that that makes a lot I’d like that makes a lot of sense and the other question I have is the appointments tomorrow night i mean like there are two people from the human service current human services current past human services committee that aren’t here one’s out of the country the other I can’t remember if it was a work schedule or what could work couldn’t be here so are there name do you have their names to be able to carry forward also for appointment you’re talking who who Diane and Mary yeah Diane we have her application and she’s an ATL large and then Mary she got hers in actually and so she’s an at-large member as well okay great yeah thank you.
JASON: So I want to speak to the two years every two years okay so feasibly every sub subcommittee is already going to be a mix of two year four year people so automatically there might be like a reconstitution simply because of the mix of committee members a system that you already have in place for the cab you might run into some strange little thing but it does become very complicated for staff if if we want to also reconstitute the subcommittees every two years so I’m going to recommend I I’m going to recommend I I won’t be voting in favor oh I’m not going to be voting at all no I’m don’t so I’m But I I would highly recommend to not add that additional layer to this large committee that you’re already going to be spaced two and four yeah so that makes a lot of sense to me.
HARRY: One last question go ahead so tomorrow night all the council is going to do is appoint the cab in theory there won’t be any people appointed to committees tomorrow night it’ll all be the cab then the cab people will decide will decide who’s going to be on the committees so what’s the purpose of this if that’s not doing anything it will help it will help Tara with a list of people who are interested then the meetings can run a little bit more efficient on that you can say “Okay I have this list of individuals who want to be on the human services subcommittee any others i have you know I have these who want to be on the senior and these who want to be on the arts.” Is this going to help her facilitate the meeting and have it be a little bit the next meeting yes because you have a lot of stuff on your work plans for your meetings and two hours and there’s a lot to do and so it’s just try to help it run a little bit smoother and facilitate it a little bit faster i think so i agree with Traci and I I know that I quote but I you guys are asking for a kind of idea or opinion two just kind of like bogs it up a little bit versus the four you just kind of get to know somebody and and not that they would leave necessarily maybe extended after the four but it’s just extra work that I don’t think we probably need that’s just my opinion well thank you everybody.
MAGDALENA: I wanted to ask for those of us that have not been part of a subcommittee before if even though it seems obvious like seniors and art but the other one human services if before the next meeting or maybe by email we can get a a brief description of what these committees have do and what they’re working on and to your point that we may not know who the people are and what what have they done and if we’re going to be asked to make decisions you know it will be nice to know who’s done what and what the work has been you know so even if it’s just a brief summary or maybe sharing some minutes of a previous meeting something that gives us an idea of like I said some are more obvious right like arts or seniors but I the human services I’m like oh I wonder what’s included in that you know what constitutes human services versus arts or versus this you know even though it may seem redundant it would be helpful to someone new.
HARRY: I think that’s an excellent idea because we need to be more informed about what we’ve been doing sorry it’s it’ll it will pick you up it just will not pick you up.
COLLEEN: We do I thought we have a powerpoint from one of our last meetings that describes types all of the commit subcommittees I’m happy to share with you.
BONNIE: And I can send the work plan or the an overview of them as well to everybody so any more comments on is the motion now four year four year with a two-year review four year with a two-year re review is the motion in front of us that has been seconded any more comments on that issue pardon just to re reiterate what Traci said is that because of the structure of the staggered appointments there will necessarily be occasion to review anyway every two years it won’t be it it’ll just be perhaps a remixing or an asking of somebody if they want to stay on or not or bring someone new in so but it’ll happen because of the structure of that that will be kind of overweening so I don’t know that we need a separate provision for it it’ll happen regardless okay that that does presume that there’ll be a choice of two and four years and because it’s a random draw as I understand it that may not actually be the case right all of the people might end up with four years or all of them might end up with two years so we really don’t know that until we actually randomly draw everything but I will also say that you know if I’m in a two-year position then I’m going to be recruiting my replacement when I’m a year out right and we should all be looking for replacements no matter how many years we are and then there is the other question of how many terms can we serve so it’s not like you’re going to even need a replacement at four years or two years if we say that the maximum term is eight so at the end of the day you might be right that we could remove the two-year but it’s probably going to be more self-evident when we actually know who gets the two years and who gets the four years okay any other comments.
So the motion again is four year a four-year appointment with two-year a two-year review to see if there’s necessary to appoint more or at that point all in favor say I or raise your hand did you keep him up okay sorry so it looks like everybody but Eddie oh sorry i got I think it’s a great idea eddie are you a No okay no that’s fine i just wanted to make sure I got that right thank you okay so motion passes great thank you so much rick your hand went up did you have a Okay all right i have what just just a quick one did we say how many terms on CAC is that already said or is that something that’s part of this two terms is that in this two forms i I didn’t have that information prior i don’t know i to my recollection is we don’t I don’t recall if it’s not part of I’m just I don’t Yeah I have a note here down to ask Tara about the terms yeah my recollection is we talked about two years okay i don’t know if we came to a decision or not but that will go to council that’s part of the code yes yes and and it will be clarified in the code yeah she might already have that i don’t know okay.
The last one is currently council members attending the meeting take information back to the rest of the council to provide updates Harry and Traci do that after each meeting is this current practice still satisfactory or does the cab want to designate an individual to do that instead to take the information back to council from the meetings they’d still attend they would still attend.
SPEAKER: I disagree when I was an executive can you mic microphone sorry it’s okay okay i I respectfully disagree when I was an executive director of three statewide nonprofits I never permitted myself or allowed myself to take minutes and the reason is the voice would not be objective it would be subjective no matter how hard I tried to keep it objective I think that’s going to be even if you you want our voices to come to council with the way we interpreted what we did not your voices because regardless of how objective you tried to be that subjectivity is going to creep in i’m sure it’s just human nature if the subjectivity creeps in it should be ours not the councils so I would prefer to have someone from our group be appointed to bring our recommendations to council thank you.
JEFF: I would like to comment on that i agree with having a cab member report to the city council but I don’t think it needs to be the same person it should be like the first city council meeting after one of our monthly meetings and at our monthly meeting we decide who that person would be to go to that next night’s meeting because a lot of times it’ll be on availability of a cab member to even go to that meeting so to be sure we’re always represented pardon yeah i I however want to I I I think that the the meeting is enriched by having somebody’s from cabinet from the council attend and be assigned and they don’t necessarily need to report for the CAP but I think it’s really helpful to have the interaction and have you here to improve communication so I don’t I don’t think this contemplates changing that okay it’s still going to be three question well then I would support having a cab member a cab I would support having a cab member report to city council and I think it should be flexible again up to the cab who who does it and that would we’ll have a large enough whoever is available and we can maybe rotate it would be good up to the cab.
BETTINA: There is also Oops there is also AI i’m currently using it for most of the meetings that I conduct or have and it’s very good and useful to have a a third entity actually taking word for word notes so that there is objectivity I have not met a person yet and that includes myself that has 100% objectivity in giving reporting out on anything so it’s but I would say I would be in favor of a cab member reporting out over a council member because they already have a voice at the table and I think the cab members need to have a voice at the table and I do agree with rotating out yeah.
HARRY: So is the So in the past when we had a senior meeting there was usually someone from the city and someone from the city council under the new structure is that still a plan or will the cab be having meetings without any representation from the city or the council we just addressed that my understand there will still be three council members that are appointed as liaison and there will be a staff person who is Terra yeah right my understanding Oh right i know that subcommittees would just meet and there would be no minutes no recording nothing like that but you would come back to the cab after your meetings and report out to the full cab what you guys discussed in your human services or senior services or arts commission subcommittee because in the past the the the person from the city like it was a whole for us most of the time she took the minutes she she sent us out the minutes of the meeting and all that right so I think I think there’s a little confusion what I’m hearing is about the minute taking that’s not the question the question is in the past either Harry or Traci or even Gene if these aren’t these two aren’t available have gone back to council during their board and committee reports and have reported out on what you guys have all discussed in the past meeting or meetings or whatever that might look like this is asking do you currently want to keep with that current practice or do you want to appoint one of you all to do that after each meeting the minutes are still being we still have a clerk running that’s the whole point of having this new cab is that now we have dedicated staff support we’re able to record and have minutes for these meetings when we didn’t have necessarily staff to do the senior human and arts commission so that’s what that’s why council decided on this new structure is to have more inclusiv inclusiveness sorry inclusivity it’s been a long day and to have more staff support to have more people engaged all of that what we’ve talked about before so minute taking still gonna happen still going to do our thing over here council members are still going to attend they’re still going to do their thing over here who do you want reporting back after your meetings a council member or a committee member or cab member.
VICTORIA: The other thing to keep in mind regarding having a a cab member be the one rotating cab member be the one to report back is that the city is trying really hard to be more transparent and do better communications and we are the people that they want to hear from so I think it makes sense for those who are watching at home who are at city council meetings to hear that it is the citizens who are telling the council this is how we feel so I I think it’ll reflect better on them to have one of us presenting that information than one of them.
HARRY: So I just want to clarify because I thought I heard that the subcommittees wouldn’t have staff or council attendance they’re not going to have that correct correct so that’s a concern to me because we that was part of why we functioned as well as we did is because our staff person was there to help us understand where the city was at and then the city council person was there to do that as well but also as a resource and so I think that human services really needs that okay we can address that at some other point okay that’s not the question in front of us right now i agree i I understand that that’s why I wanted to clarify it so I’m no motion or anything it’s just a matter of Yeah then you took your card down i did because that Okay.
BETTINA: So I’m in favor of the ORE which is the CAB reporting out and I also believe at least this is would be my recommendation to the CAB is that when it comes to reporting out specifically on the subcommittees that a subcommittee person be the one reporting out that way it doesn’t get keep getting watered down right so it makes sense that you have to be serving on a subcommittee to report out about the subcommittee because we won’t there won’t be any minutes there won’t be anything for me as a if I’m not on a committee to really report out on i I’d be getting it third-hand why not let that person or persons report it’s going to be a recommendation from the cab the subcommittee does the work reports to the cab the cab reports to the council yeah so I’d like to make a motion that that we go with a cab reporting to the council to take back information to the council.
MULTIPLE VOICES: Second second lots of seconds do you have a second we have plenty of seconds do you want to do you want one who would you like to have oh oh Eddie okay thank you i know you all second it I think okay do we understand the motion any more discussion.
HARRY: The cab will designate an individual to take the information back to the council.
BETTINA: Sorry clarification did you say a rotating person each time did you mention that okay thank you you didn’t mention the mod but you that’s your tent okay.
MARY ELLEN: Mic microphone would it need to be a rotating person if there was somebody that said “I really want to do that.” Would we no it didn’t okay okay so can we strike rotating from the notes how about the cab will report back to council and they’ll designate at that time who that will be at the meeting yeah the way but but they I think their intent is like somebody different each time you can decide that on a meeting by meeting basis i mean that’s that’s kind of what the cab is it will do the cab will set those kinds of rules so it’s redundant to to require it.
JEFF: Go ahead sorry well I just want to speak to the original motion that I made is that it just wasn’t the same person each time that was my intent it could be the same person for two months in a row or not just as long as the we were able to switch out that’s okay so this goes back to what I said earlier and everyone seemed to be against it but we’re making decisions tonight for the cab that doesn’t exist yet in the big picture so why not wait and let the cab make the decision of how we want to report to the city does the cab have does the non-current citizens advisory committee members have input for this discussion that would determine the vote from the citizens advisory committee members to do that or not does that make sense if you have if you have input then do you understand that we’re making that there’s seven or eight people here tonight that are making the decisions for the new cab which does not exist yet in the big picture and as we talked about it’s a good faith effort well it’s it’s a good faith but it’s like there’s going to be when the first cab meeting happens there could be 30 people there conceivably half those people may have a different thought.
JEFF: Jeff the umc all we’re doing is we’re pardon me one sec and let Traci answer this what does it get.
TRACI: So so you can change it let your committee change it you can make a motion.
HARRY: I’m just going to call on Randy because he hasn’t had anything this is the first time he’s chiming in and I want to make sure you get called on and Randy go ahead.
RANDY: This is This is different than I thought it would be this evening i thought last time when the mayor came up with the great idea of CAB I thought that was excellent i thought that’s what it was going to be i feel really outnumbered with this CAC or whatever you call I I feel that we as the members of the senior advisory board we’re down to about four now bart and Aileen Jeff and myself we have no voice this evening.
HARRY: Well you do and you’ve just expressed it and what is the concern what what is it that you you think is not what is that there’s been several motions made of which I can’t vote on or we cannot vote on have any of those motions you think negatively impacted what’s going to be the cab yes but I can’t vote on them what is the negativity what what do you well for instance the the amount of numbers the minimum yeah minimum maximum but I I don’t want to comment now but you should comment that’s why we’re here I I hopefully well everybody else has been commenting yeah it’s it’s just as this one lady pointed out I’m a big Robert’s rules of orders person myself and with due respect to you folks I I think that there’s more that’s been out of line out of Robert’s rules of orders that’s one that’s one objection I have and then I’m just quite frustrated i will continue on but I don’t I believe in this i really do or I wouldn’t be here this evening but I’m very very frustrated i’m going to end my comment there thank you for the time to speak.
BARTON: So Randy and Jeff it seems to me this motion is merely to establish first that a cab member would report to the city council today the CAC there that doesn’t happen the whoever is sitting here whether it’s you know will will report out and give the report to city council so what they’re recommending is that in fact going forward the cab will will have a designated member now that’s all we need to put in that and I think that’s all the motion is right now if when we meet next time we want to rotate it we want to designate it we have any we can that’ll be up to the cab to decide so th this motion doesn’t preclude anything it except that it it assures that the cab going forward will have will be responsible for reporting directly to the city council.
HARRY: All right i don’t think it necessarily does settle that because the cab could decide to change it and and and there’s well just to the to the other way i mean there’s the either or and it and and you know it’s interesting having been on the senior committee for Can you get in front of a microphone Jeff sorry.
JEFF: Having been on the on the senior committee for six years and I’m sure with the arts commission and with health and human services and taking nothing away from anyone I don’t think there’s going to be you know we’re saying like you know Traci we want to get to work i don’t think that there’s anything that’s earthshattering that’s going to happen on any of those committees in 30 days that’s going to substantially change anything so I don’t see why we don’t wait and make a lot of these decisions once the cab is established just my humble opinion oh I’m sorry okay.
RICK: Did you have a question i just want to go back to what Traci and Bonnie were saying we don’t want to have this meeting next month and so we’re getting some structure done so let’s let’s be happy i’m pretty pretty impressed we’re at the last page so I think everybody’s done well and I would just reassure people that it’s not in concrete so getting the structure done giving giving us some vision forward so we can start at a at a place ahead of where we were last month and this month is basically the goal here and I think we’ve accomplished that any other comments.
VICTORIA: I I I I just I’m I’m sensing that that the the subcommittee the previous subcommittee members I I hear your frustration the rest of us have been together for quite some time and and you’re coming into this and and trying to come up to speed and trying to have voice on an equal level but you’re not on an equal level yet and and you don’t know what that’s going to feel like when you are on an equal level we’ll all be on an equal level as a one we’re appointed then I expect Randy for you to push that button and to make comments often and not to just sit and be frustrated i want you to get out your feelings like the rest of us have for the past couple years because that’s why I’m here it’s the dialogue among a lot of smart people who care that’s why we’re sitting in the room so I I hope you’ll you’ll decompress tonight and realize we all have the city’s best interest at heart here and and just because you couldn’t vote on things tonight doesn’t mean you’re not going to be able to vote on them next month when you’re legit so you know have a glass of wine when you get home okay exactly exactly okay.
MARY ELLEN: So I just want to say Randy I I hear you but it’s it’s hard for all of us i mean we’re we’re getting new partners as well and anytime you try to bring large groups together there’s lots of kind of uncomfort discomfort so it’s you’re not alone but you just have to trust the process and when we look back on this in six months we’ll say “God we really went through it didn’t we but look where we are today.” So anybody else going once going twice.
HARRY: Call the question what was it the question is the mo the motion is for the cab to designate an individual to take back information to the council following the cab meetings is that Yeah that’s the motion and it was seconded all in favor i Okay six to one magdalene is there a no it’s okay it can be okay thank you okay well that that is the end of what I had to ask for yeah that will help Tara immensely with the code so thank you so much for your input and I’ve taken a lot of notes so I’ll give those all back to her and we’ve completed item number one and we have a half hour left you want these little things yes please pass those over or I can come get them.
Which is the the 2025 draft work plan and you’ll notice the big parenthesis subject to change but you know the idea was this this meeting the membership update in the subcommittee structure and then for July 30th best practices recordkeeping reporting out what is that actually going to look like and selecting a chair or vice chair if we want to do that i’m the meeting facilitator or chair is one of us going to be a chair well under the current under the current code section it does call what does it call for i am the chair currently Eddie did you do one of these oh okay so I have one with no name on it that’ll be a topic of discussion in the next in the July meeting let me see what else I have so is there anything else on this list that needs to be added subtracted the work plan yes kind of got out of a little out of order in the in the PowerPoint i’m sorry.
LIN: Go ahead yeah i just one question next step tomorrow night the points we made if we can’t be at the meeting do we need to be at the meeting tomorrow night no no you didn’t so you’ll be sending us something to say “Hey congratulations you’re not appointed or you are appointed?”
BONNIE: Yes our city clerk will be sending out appointment letters after the meeting tomorrow night welcoming you to the new committee and thanking you and giving you your terms so we’ll have to decide on again the two-year or your term and then we will get those letters out to you as soon as we can after that yeah.
VICTORIA: The strategic not the strategic plan the retreat that was going to be part of our work plan was the retreat but in addition to budget when would we be You said budget retreat i think that’s the phrase that you used and so I think what she meant was the city city’s budget update we have every year we’ve called it a budget retreat but Where did I see that oh it was like part of our work plan.
TRACI: I did i do so I did especially Jeff and Randy I want to thank you for your patience tonight i think if after this meeting if we were to rewind go back in time and plan for this meeting again or even you know a month in advance we might prepare differently because there were a lot of things that came up tonight i think that were we were it was unexpected for us and so I want to thank you for your patience for how for going through this this is going to be a really great experience and you we need you and so I’m hoping that you feel encouraged and inspired to to not only bring your voice to this committee but to keep doing the work that you’re doing super important and so thanks for going through with us tonight and and please be bold as time goes on in the months coming to I’m sure that somebody’s going to we always at the council allow at near the end of the meeting opportunities for the council members to come forward with new business a new idea a new motion a new ordinance a new whatever and I’m sure there will be a little space at the end if somebody any of you at any time want to change how this works you can make a motion on the table and change so keep that confidence this will be your this will be your committee thank you mayor i appreciate being heard council and administration i’m proud to be part of this city and thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion absolutely.
HARRY: All right any additions subtractions to the work plan just a quick when will we be advised that I mean I guess we’ve made the assumption everyone’s going to be on it but will there be will we get an email from Bonnie or something on Friday or whatever that says you’ve all been appointed or when will there be an official announcement.
BONNIE: Two ways you can watch the meeting tomorrow live from your comfort of your own little home on our website or attend but no after the meeting tomorrow we’ll get with Tara and we will decide who’s going to be the two-year terms who’s going to be the four year terms and then the city clerk will get an appointment letter out to you probably next week probably i don’t know when Tara’s coming back on vacation so yeah I will it might not be right away but I can in the meantime I can send out a welcome email to you all i do have some follow-up information to give you all you’ve requested the former work overview of the human senior and arts commission so I will be sending that out to you tomorrow or Friday depending on my workload but I’ll wait till Friday now actually and I will send it with a you’ve been selected letter or just a little email letting you know what happened at the meeting and not hearing any other input on the work plan discussion feedback anything that anybody wants to address really glad that I didn’t have to take notes tonight you get a lot more involved when you do it professional way.
HARRY: Anybody is there Oh no we’re talking no I got I heard I heard my name just be sure to turn you were talking about me so just be sure to turn your microphone off if you don’t want anybody to hear you oh it wasn’t No it was Jeff i could No no i’m just saying while they don’t hear you the cameras can’t hear you if they’re not on they can hear you when you’re on so if you are sidebarring they will hear you are you trying to get my attention Karen okay i I will Oh yes.
CHARLENE: I would like to express that we also in this forum get updates of what’s going on in our city such as the status of the stairs or or the Masonic home property and I wonder if you could share anything tonight because that’s what my people ask about okay.
TRACI: If if any of you have not yet subscribed to the the newsletter subscribe because then you’ll get you’ll write into your email inbox you’ll get whatever and you get to pick all the different categories of information you want right into your email inbox plus the weekly city manager report there and so go online right there in the homepage of our website and you can click and subscribe and you’re gonna have to go on the website correct desmoines.gov right on the homepage at the very bottom of how do I go back here how do I at the very very bottom subscribe to the city mailing list you click on that your name your email boom or you can email feedback at desmoines.gov and I get that and we’ll put you on mail list pardon me oh like several yes check your spam if you don’t get it check your spam because Rick I’ve seen your name on there and I do see repeat people in the feedback who’ve already subscribed and I’m thinking “Oh man I bet it’s in their spam folder.” because here even at the city ours were going to spam because I do a test every week and where is my reporter so I had to have a hunt for it so do check your spam folder and let me know if you don’t have it in there and we’ll just re let me I’m trying to answer Charlene’s questions there we go you know we’ve had three big projects kind of pending and one of them’s done the triangle park is finished the grass is even growing and it starting to look really nice you know so we got that done the Redondo Pier which we fully funded out of the bonds my understanding and I I say it this way because I’m sure I’ll get some feedback if I’m not correct is that we’re going out to bid on the 1 of July yes so we will be taking bids that should allow it to get finished during the fish window which is a whole different concept if you’re not familiar with it we’ll discuss it over alcohol sometime that’s the best way and then the Marina Steps we have a $1 million grant that we’re waiting to hear from on it is a King County Parks grant we should hear in early August and if we get that grant we are fully funded and it will go out to bid in the beginning of September is the general time frame so are you saying the new bid yeah on the re-engineered version of the steps of the Marina steps yes and it’s always nice to get that it’s always really nice to get that real fresh new input as well as But real quickly you could would you remind me of the dates of that window it’s the fish window the fish window right isn’t it it just has to be completed by February so I think it starts February to April or something or I know that they’re moving the boats out in August and they’re doing it in a staged phase so August it must be August through February but they have to be completed by February 15th or some midday like that that I know for sure i know someone who knows she’s she’s kind of familiar with the guy who knows these been chanting it for a long time now and actually one more point of interest I remember from a city council meeting a group spoke in reference to the meadow and reservicing the meadow what’s the status on that we have the plans i don’t know if we’re probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% we just have grants the design and we’re looking way for grants to get each phase of the project done yeah and there was a nice rendering that was done of what it would look like which I’m pretty sure is on the website certainly in the minutes in the packet that we used to that we got and it would change the bulkhead to a nicely much more stepped thing that would open up the mouth of the river the bridge pedestrian bridge would be moved back significantly yeah and the the meadow or what is now the beach park will be shrunk it’ll be smaller because there’ll be more of the open space from the river flow and this will help compensate for climate change and the expected rise in sea level so how long of a project is that estimated to be not what not from start date to finish is it a three-month window of Oh construction i don’t think they’re anywhere near Oh they knowing the answer to that yet that would take I mean this is probably an early 2030s oh you think that far out it sound like a great idea to me anyway it is but that’s how far out you have to plan some of these things in order to in order to get them done so well it gets here sooner than we want it.
VICTORIA: I just want to send compliments on the materials that I’m receiving from the city you know my big thing was communication man leaps and bounds wonderful job whoever’s doing the writing you’re capturing everything and it’s really appreciated nice job Bonnie yay
BONNIE: Katherine has the final say she does change my words sometimes she does change my words so you know I start let’s just say I start it she adds and finishes it so and then I complete it
EDDIE: we were so lucky to get her because actually I lived in Texas okay in a small city a bigger city than than Cedar Park and I left there 25 years ago so my son three years ago took me to Cedar Park you would not believe the difference when I went through that city there was one stoplight there was one little school there was a playground at the school nothing now you go there and they have stores and they have a train and they they have just expanded so So I called everybody I knew on the board on the council and said “You guys have got to get this woman because you would not believe what she has done to this little node town that you don’t really even know it’s there.” Yes except for us that live there you know yeah so I And and thank you by the way because I got the light on the flashy light for my residents thank you thank you thank you i just pass it along so you’re very welcome i’m really good at that you’re welcome but she knows where it all goes and they listen to her.
HARRY: I will entertain a motion to adjourn if somebody wants to make that motion is there Oh you can’t yeah it’s going to be the 1 two three i move that we Okay and I hear a second already all in favor i Okay all opposed.
END OF MEETING
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