Des Moines Marina L, M, N Dock Tenant Meeting

3:47it if you want to just kind of check in katie’s keeping track of any like you todd so and then we’ll get started in a

3:53couple minutes i appreciate it

5:44well good evening everybody i truly appreciate you all coming out tonight for this

5:49little meeting about our phase one of our dock replacement program um katie and i are gonna oh by the way for

5:56those who don’t know me i’m scott wilkins the harbour master at the marina and uh katie bevegner assistant heart

6:02master if you haven’t seen her i’m sure you’ve spoken to her on the phone so we thank you i have our chief administrative officer

6:09bonnie wilkins going to run the slideshow for us and everything else we have

6:14our executive director of marine redevelopment dan brewer in the corner and we also have bill gurken here he’s

6:21the senior civil and coastal engineer for moffitt nichols and he’s more or less the lead on this project for us so

6:27like to welcome everybody so well i guess we unless there’s a quick

6:33question off the top i guess we can get started but we’re going to just roll through about 12 13 slides and then we can open up for

6:40some questions and if i can’t answer them katie might be able to if not bill might be able to help us out and if not

6:46we’ll write them down and make sure we get answers for you so let’s move ahead

6:53our project background we’re going to start with the kind of a background then we’ll go into kind of where we are right at this point and then what we’re

6:59looking to in the future and what we know as we move forward so back some of the background back in

7:052019 and we had we had mark bunzell to do some work they

7:12were recommended by the des moines marine association and we appreciate that their first one in 2019 spoke

7:17mostly about challenges and opportunities trends boaters needs and things like that

7:23and then in 2021 they did an update and they talked a lot about dry stack boat

7:28size open mortgage public and private partnerships things of that sort condition assessment was performed by

7:35reed middleton in 2020 financial studies and was performed by moffett nicholls this uh and was

7:41february of this year bst paul sorensen he uh

7:46he was very instrumental in feasibility feasibility studies and also the market

7:51analysis he’s a proponent on the nmta the national marine trade association

7:58which looks at boat links boat registrations and anything boating related and he’s quite

8:05the profession for that we did city council and municipal facilities presentations

8:10we’d worked with a little bit of the des moines marine association presentations we had harbormasters working group for

8:16some time i now put out a monthly harbor masters report that report used to go to the dmma now it goes to everybody so we try

8:23to keep people more informed of what’s going on and then we had the selection of moffett nichols bill and his team as our

8:30project design consultant all of these informations all of these presentations all of the studies and

8:36everything is on our marina website so please go take a look at it and read it

8:42our overall phasing plan consists of three phases first flight phase is l m and n dock that’s why you’re all here

8:49and that’s that’s actually we’re shooting for tentatively two years

8:55from this month approximately so nothing’s happening for two years from

9:00now the second phase of our studies will be about 20 29 20 30 is it yeah 20 30

9:09and then the third phase would be around 20 39 20 40. so quite a few few years out it’s going to take some

9:15time next slide please marina basis of our design

9:23uh we have the marina dock layout we’re going to be about talking about slip configurations

9:28a lot of that is we’ll be looking at is there’s no longer being open mortgage and some other things that will be no

9:34longer 10 overhangs we’re going to go boats to slips slips to boats so you’ll see in our l which is

9:41now 36 our m which is 40 and above l will will adjust a little bit there will be

9:48some slips 38 some slips 42 and there’ll be two end ties so we make sure everybody fits a slip so we don’t have

9:55any more impeding going down the fairways so we’ll be looking at that we’ll be looking at float structures and

10:00 materials some of the mechanical our water systems our fire suppression systems

10:06 you know spill kits and all those things our electrical 50 amp 30 amp

10:13 we also have to put in there all the ground ground faults now all the new codes call for ground faults so

10:19 lighting we can’t have any over the water lighting we can’t do shadowing so we’ve got to be careful

10:24 about that so we’ll be looking at some low light lighting probably off of our power pedestals

10:30 and then safety with our dock ladders and things such as that next slide

10:38 perfect okay so the scope project this is kind of describing our phase one what we have

10:44 these docks as you can see right here were chosen as a starting point primarily because of that bulkhead that’s in front of them has already been

10:51 redone whereas the rest of the docks they’d have to redo the bulkhead before they could do any of the other work so

10:57 that was one of the main reasons for that as well as the utilities and the proximity to our guest march dock

11:04 the evaluation of the slip mix the dock design permitting costs consists of the following

11:10 the consultants they performed the extensive analysis of the entire marina basin they did a full view at that previous

11:18 picture you could kind of see where they were looking at the whole marine as a whole and what they would do for that design but they were still just only

11:24focusing on these three docks bst did our financial analysis as well

11:30as our market analysis and forecast transitioning to what we’re seeing right now with the

11:36larger boats coming in and it’s supported by the long-term trends

11:41throughout the sound these reports and all these findings were reported to a city council at a

11:47meeting i believe last year and excuse me in 2022 of this year but

11:53we’ve had other meetings regarding it as well and all of the meeting videos and those reports are on our website

12:00they’ve been there for a while um and so because of those meetings we are

12:06proceeding with the uncovered mortgage for the replacement of l lm and endoc so

12:11moving forward that decision has been finalized so we’re no longer discussing the option of covered for those three

12:17docs we’re just moving forward now so the sling launch we know this is a

12:24big topic for pretty much everybody doesn’t affect you guys nearly as much as it does the smaller boats

12:31it closed this year as we all know the exceltec did that safety assessment and

12:38it was deemed essentially unsafe it was a it was a hazard pilings were rotting and all that

12:45but fortunately we hadn’t submitted our permit documents for the replacement of ln m and ndoc so

12:52we’ve included that in our permitting and now we’re evaluating the functional replacement of

12:59that what that looks like for the future so the des moines yacht club fortunately

13:05um offered our dry shed tenants because the dry shed tenants had the sling as a part of their mortgage an option for

13:12them to stay we had about five or so of those tenants take on that option the rest of them either

13:18went in the water for the summer or they they just left them and launched them yeah

13:24finding other launching locations

13:31that door’s locked no no

13:56wait there’s a seat up here too

14:05is

14:36for those of you that just joined us you haven’t really missed much we’ve just really kind of gone over where we were

14:41in the history of this process all of that information

14:47is available on our website all the assessments all the reports all the studies those have all been posted as

14:53well as a lot of the presentations to municipal facility committee and city council so you’re actually all getting

15:00here right about a good time for those that just came in before you

15:05leave tonight we do have a little sign-in sheet up here we just want to know our tenancy it’s got your name

15:11already on it you just have to initial where you are so just as you leave but anyway you walked in right at the

15:16perfect time so let’s go with the project scope and really kind of where we’re going right

15:22now so the permitting applications they were submitted as of june of this

15:27year the corps of engineer permit timeline is about a 15-month process

15:34so that is really what controls the timeline it’s one reason

15:40you missed it earlier but for some of you but the presumed timeline of in-water work is

15:45not for about two years from literally this month at the earliest so

15:51we are assuming to receive some of these permits by fall of next year once they approve it and then we have to

15:57go out and do all the get get the companies to basically

16:03assign onto these projects at this point in time the design is at 45

16:08we just received that this past month from moffitt and nickel we’re currently reviewing that 45 submittal and

16:16we’ll hopefully have that finalized here in the next week or two

16:32the permits are for the in-water work we have to go through uh department of natural resources to make sure we can do

16:38the work department of ecology so we can do the work and uh and and the

16:44national marine fisheries the nymphs permit remember that one took three years to do for the bulkhead project so that’s the

16:50longest one so we can we can get start with this now because it’s it’s a lot of

16:55the work is replacement of what we have uh in the footprint it’s not we’re building anything really

17:01new it’s kind of replacement in the footprint so we can get ahead of the ball game

17:08for ln mnn that is at 45 right now that is kind of a preliminary drawing the

17:13small rectangle black rectangles you see are the larger i want to call i don’t want to call it a head doc but it’s the

17:20actual landing for the gangway so we can have ada gangways so they’re a bit wider

17:25so you can walk their ada accessible and then you walk down the side of it for a couple of those boats and the one for l m we’re

17:32gonna start connecting two docks for one ramp so one one gate at the top and that’ll come down and split to two ramps

17:38to cover l m dock to make those ada accessible one thing also we did just so you guys

17:46know we are recording this because there are a lot of tenants that want access to this that were unable to show up today

17:52so we are um we’ll what we’ll probably do since i’m not sure that the microphone will hear your guys’s

17:58questions as well we’ll try to repeat them on the microphone and then answer them

18:05this this presentation as well as this video will be posted so [Music]

18:12on our website anyway okay go ahead

18:21i’m from behind that’s right right now our project schedule as katie mentioned we have our 45 percent drawings that

18:29have been submitted we should get our 95 drawings approximately november of this

18:34year and then we’ll take about an eight month pause and the reason being is we have to wait on all those permits for final and

18:42during that pause we’ll be doing things like bid packets and contractor things and getting all that work done so we’re

18:48not just going to walk away lots of work still to do and then final contracts coming in june of next year

18:55about four weeks for the city to review them we’ll advertise for approximately about six weeks

19:01and that still anticipates advertising prior to those final final permits that are needed for the project but we’ll

19:06still get all this moving forward so you’re looking at september october i mean august september of next year

19:13award project contract late september of next year and then we got to look at material acquisitions so for fabrication all the

19:20dock material all the electrical all the wiring all the plumbing everything that needs to be done

19:26and this is you know there’s some risk right now with the way timelines are with different with different types of

19:31materials and different things so a lot of that is going to have have some impact on that 12 months

19:38and then in water construction hopefully we’re like katie said it’s two years from this approximately two years from

19:43now

19:50so we wanted to show you some of the design detail

19:59that part is still undetermined we are that’s obviously something we’re working on a lot of that is going to be decided

20:05by the the bidder whoever bids on the project the contractor and their

20:11timeline and all of that stuff um ideally our plan to submit to to require

20:17the bidder to do is to have like a staging aspect moving forward we have a couple more

20:23answers to for you yeah yes okay go ahead go for it no some of our

20:31design details as you know we’re going to go with composite decking similar to the new part on jdock that

20:36after the fire a lot of light penetrating grading for our mitigation that had to be required

20:42and then it’ll be timber framed on the outside next frame please

20:47some of the design details we’re making sure everything’s got rub boards from start to finish all the way around with corner bumpers so everybody will be

20:53protected and nice looking forward to that next slide

20:59some of the design details for electrical pedestals these are three three of them that we’re looking at

21:04right now a couple eatons and one high power currently the marina has mostly high power in it but

21:11number one there the eaton lighthouse stainless steel a little harder to work on but a little more robust

21:17number two the lighthouse i like the lighthouse i like the look of it it’s easier to work on things like

21:23that and i do really like one aspect of it if you look down at about the second from the bottom says ground fault

21:29notification so in that amber light or the white light whatever we choose on all the docks

21:35when there’s a ground fault on somebody’s boat that light will turn red so we’ll know that your boat has a problem or we have a problem or whatever

21:42that is but it’ll be just kind of a nice notification when someone’s walking down the dock so i kind of like that one

21:48but you know we’ll we’ll discuss those a little further down the road

21:53next always our our life rings fire extinguisher cabinets safety ladders and

21:59all those things that’ll be new and we’ll get them placed properly ladders on every finger pier and i know right

22:04now some people own some ladders so we’ll make sure we move those to their slips when that’s available so they have

22:10that extra ladder besides on the end of the finger pair so what’s next we’ll continue to work

22:17with muffin nickels to complete the design in our permitting we’ll continue to work with the inflammation and transition plan

22:24and this is where we are speaking of that so there is a lot of unknowns right now

22:29but i know how we hope to see it katie and i and uh we’ll be asking the contractor to

22:36do it in stages it’s not you come in and pull out l m and n all at once and then bring on all new ones

22:42i can’t see displacing a hundred and some odd voters so

22:48i’m gonna speak with paul wherever paul is hiding right now i know he’s here

22:54and uh about maybe expanding extending paul’s yard to see if some people

23:01want to go up into the yard for winter mortgage i mean not winter mortgage for their maintenance for a couple months

23:07and i should back up excuse me i want to move some boats from endoc to guest mortgage

23:13there’s about 30 35 slips and guest mortgage there’s approximately that many on endoc so if i move those boats to

23:20endoc minus the people that might go on vacation that might relocate

23:25that might sorry say leave us or might want to pull their boat out like i say with paul for that time

23:32then they can do endoc i would love to see that completed and then maybe the votes

23:37from mdot come over to to endoc and then they do that project on them

23:43and then the people from l go to there well that gets done and then we reverse the process

23:48it’s not going to go perfect and we’re going to have some trouble but we’re going to try our best to help everybody

23:53we can we’ll reach out to other more other marinas to see if there’s space that you know we can help people find

23:58and some other things it would be less displacement essentially in the long run you might not send in 150 you guys have

24:05to go find something it’s going to be yeah and it’ll be a little more costly because we’re going to have to mobilize

24:10demobilize you know things like that during the during the

24:16removal of docs we don’t want someone to come in and we’ll put this and i’m sure bill can correct me we’ll put this in

24:22the contractor that we want it to be taken apart and moved off site not done right there because that’s time i want

24:28it to be cut up in chunks and hauled away and then bring in our new dogs just everything about time and implementation

24:35but knowing that right now i don’t know exactly

24:43it’s going to be it’s going to be busy but it’s going to be beautiful

24:48and then you know our last thing is we’re looking at i mean making sure our finances are right for the bonding for

24:54all the construction and all the work that needs to be done that last thing in there oh one more sorry go right ahead um

25:06why is all this happening why is that

25:13oh i’m well yes i’m sorry the no we had to conde the docs are 51 years old almost 52 years old they’ve our pilings

25:20of most of the pilings and a lot of people can attest this have rotted and gone a lot of them have holes we’ve

25:26removed a lot of pilings the flotation the floatation a lot of flotation has been eaten out by otters and different

25:32things we’re not getting the free board that we used to get we get any type of snow loads that’s coming down the

25:37assessment says it’s time to replace and that’s and that’s why we’re replacing it and money’s not going to

25:44get any cheaper so this would be the time to reach out

25:54on ldoc it you’ll it’s it’s it’s more lineal feet but it’s four

26:00slips less but i believe on l dock i know there’s some people that have already put in for moving

26:07their boats to different slips that’ll fit we’ll lose some people to attrition of course and some people just want covered

26:15mortgage so they’re gonna find that elsewhere so i think we’ll make up those three to four slips

26:26there won’t be covered march for l m and n if openmore adjusts you will be able to stay there but it’ll be open mortgage

26:46k is in phase two so you’re looking ten years down the road before we get to k doc

26:53probably probably anyway

27:01and doc endo currently sorry

27:07and doc currently has 34 slips and it’s scheduled for 31 so there’s approximately three slips

27:13on and and and on mdoc there’s five slip difference but as i said through through

27:19attrition through people needing covered mortgage like this gentleman through people you know

27:26moving we feel and if and if we’re not quite there we don’t quite have enough slips

27:32i’ll put you permanent origin guest mortgage and we’ll keep you there until we can get you back into a regular slip

27:41for some of the presentations that were done over the last couple of years and you can

27:47those studies on the cost of covered mortgage is what have been been one of the driving factors yeah i might ask

27:53bill if he can step up he could probably be up here he could probably help a little bit with that

28:00there’s a couple of things but at the end of the day bill can you come over here

28:06sorry people can hear him i think hopefully i can answer this at the end of the day it’s cost and economics

28:13driven what you have is when you have covered mortgage under current code

28:19for snow loads non-balanced snow loading the costly roof structure and the cost

28:25of additional float with or going to single slips just drives the marina cost up

28:32excessively for covered mortgage so to me covered you know to meet

28:37current codes for covered mortgage the cost is just excessive to provide

28:43covered mortgage and hopefully i’m not speaking wrong and being able to actually recoup that capital cost

28:50through mortgage rates and so working with paul at pst

28:56and all the economics financials and engineering analysis associated with cover

29:01uh covered was just eliminated as an option and i think you’ll

29:07you’ll see a lot of other places over the last 30 years i’ve been doing this in puget sound

29:13covered mortgage has been i should say fading away from public you know public marinas as they replace

29:19their systems and that’s typically just due to pure cost and economics

29:27does that answer the question hopefully yeah

29:33and and as bill’s saying some of those costs and some of those other costs are mitigation for having over the water coverage it’s

29:40going to be very expensive to mitigate that and things like it’s going to be very expensive to mitigate over water

29:46coverage that’s why all the docks are going to be without all kinds of open water grading and with the risk on the

29:53mitigation costs drastically go down and those are other reasons

29:59what size

30:05well right now ldoc’s 36 foot so you’ll be looking at ldoc we’re going to put in approximately 26 slips of 38 foot

30:1422 a 42 foot because we’re going to remember no 10 overhang we’re going boats that fit under that or up to that

30:22correct correct and then mdoc we have some 40s and some 42s a bunch of 46s

30:28some 48s and then you know the larger ones on the end tight so larger than the current 40s on mdoc

30:35and then and we have 40 as some 40s 47s and some 20 52s and things like that

30:41which are currently larger than we have now when the docs get built el i mean m and ndoc will be replaced in the existing

30:48locations ldac will probably be scooched to the south just to touch okay

30:53yeah when we get closer to this are we going to get like a layout

30:58something and then like a sign up yep and that’s yes thank you and that’s kind of what

31:04that slip reservation is there for we want to you know we’re going to we’re going to make room for all of our current tenants we’re going to try our

31:10best for all that and everything else and through attrition and some other things we are going to lose people we understand that but yes we are going to

31:16we’ll make sure everybody gets that early next year can you like to put out a little survey to people that

31:23will help us know how many posts that we’re we want to help find mortgage and guest

31:28mortgage or other mortgage whatever else or how many people are not going to be with us things like that so that will

31:34help us too but with that slip reservations we’ve had a lot of people ask also say hey if everything’s going to be open i would love this slip and

31:41the reason why is because my boat backs to the left back to the port side easier than i do am now so if there’s any way

31:48we can help people get a better slip option that’s what we’re going to look to do

31:54correct yes

32:00ideally i that the that’s currently the plan is the slip that you are in now the number

32:07the number scheme will essentially be very similar you’d be assigned to that number and then as we go through because

32:13they will both they um we go through this process if there are tenants that want to change

32:19the current tenants on l and m and n that want to move and want to stay will

32:25be given priority of anybody on a transfer list or anybody on a waiting list for sure

32:39you know this you know to be honest i i i can’t answer that completely and i don’t have

32:44that but the slips now will be sink will be uh single finger so two boats double slip

32:51because there won’t be a finger on each side of the boat there will be one finger on either side of the boat and you know that’ll that’ll help

33:00that’ll help a little bit with some of the catamarans that called about wanting slips down here at the marina and things like that so we

33:06can accommodate single boat double boats or catamarans

33:18well i mean removing a little bit of slips to so

33:25we’re losing a few slips not not very many and we actually gain lineage

33:32per foot for larger boats so that number goes up but it might help

33:42um

34:04correct no and well you’re on ldac k is a 32 but it just it’s a matter of if you qualify

34:11there are some tenants who are on um ldoc that are small enough boats that

34:16can move down to go down it’s just a matter of if your boat’s small enough yeah so then yeah there’s yeah yeah

34:25yes

34:31correct except for the end well no i’m sorry no there’s some 40s and 36s on there

34:42no no no there’s currently those sizes also

34:55that’ll be you know that’ll be in farther on in the design i don’t know exactly what the docs going to look like yet if they’re going to have triangles

35:01there or if they’re going to be built differently you know if we put triangles on the other side we impede on some

35:06space for some of those boats so i’m not exactly sure as of yet getting back to this

35:18no um as of right now the first action is that we will let you stay where you’re where you are so current tenants

35:24in those slips will have those will have first right to their slip

35:30no it will but next year we’ll send out a notification that kind of lets more detail for those docs on what the

35:37process is where we are and then if the you know these are this is going to be your slip number based off of where

35:43you’re currently at do you want to move kind of thing so yes

35:53yes yep okay i was actually looking at that today we fortunately actually don’t have too many boats that overhang the

35:59size so there’s more that are at or below

36:09the those will probably oh yes yes the lockers on dead end will probably go

36:15away yes

36:21you know if we if we put in uh the dock boxes and everything else that be a question and

36:27uh some people love them some people hate them you know they’re sometimes they’re

36:33what i call hazardous waste holders and some people

36:38take care of them so i mean but i think overall it’s something that we can look at and and if we do

36:47right yes yes i understand but something we can definitely look at

36:54definitely

37:15you know i i honestly believe that we’re going to have to be looking at the rentals of the rate structure and

37:21everything else to see what in comparison to on puget sound and for to

37:27like you say to recoup capital costs and to in future capital costs of keep going down the marina and

37:33rebuilding the entire marina you know so so it will be yes the rate structure will be looked at

37:39well it’s pretty much broken

37:45indefinitely and i know

38:05that’s just wrong and why don’t we get a voice in that where can we have a voice in that you’re going to raise the rates

38:11and you know if that includes you know is the lift going to be repaired

38:18that’s what we were speaking about is having right now we put that lift in with the

38:23permitting process for the lm and the n process so we’re looking at that and what it would cost and we’re also

38:29looking at different options for that piece of property and what i mean by that is the launch deck and the

38:35superstructure that takes up a lot of real estate right there if if down the road we do build dry

38:40stack in an all-purpose building maybe we look at a negative forklift that can can support the dry stack and launch the

38:46boats there also things like that and so those are the options right now that we’re looking at but yes it is being set into our

38:54permitting right now and we are looking at that because we have to we have to replace it somehow

39:00and we don’t want to use csr we don’t want to impede on their business so we need to do something there but the

39:06options there we’re not sure yet do we rebuild it as it is or do we rebuild it differently that might support like i

39:11say the dry stack or something else

39:18is the sa is the same as this lm and endoc at least two plus years out because i can’t get permits for another

39:2415 months for it the permitting aspect just i don’t know if anybody’s aware there are five

39:30different government agencies that you have to work with and we’ve got other

39:36puget sound docs that have docks physically under the water that are being they won’t do they won’t do

39:42they’re even for emergency permits i mean it’s you know we can’t force all of these

39:48agencies to just give us the permits and let us do it so there’s just it’s just a timing thing and so that’s

40:00it’s beyond repair those pilings have to if you were to walk by it you can see through pilings

40:07no it’s it’s the structure itself the structure itself yes

40:13yeah yeah and and and just quickly speaking on the permit side you know last year we did

40:18dredging we dredged the channel so everybody can come in and out i still don’t have the permit for that

40:25yeah i i mean i haven’t done the mitigation for that we we

40:31yeah that’s kind of a hush hush but we dredged we did we dredged under emergency permit so we could keep the

40:36mariner operationable but we still have to do those things so

40:48yes

41:05that’s yes correct no no you’re absolutely right todd and yeah and like and that’s why we say you know the

41:11earliest is two years from now if we can’t get materials if we can’t get the permit whatever it just extends that

41:20the other thing to keep in mind is the only time you can do in water work is between the months of september and

41:27february that’s the only time so if you don’t get your there’s a fish window that we have to work around

41:32so if we don’t get the permit before that september deadline of 2024 two years from now we’re already pushed out

41:39i mean with that so it’s just it’s a it’s a long

41:47uh would process include all aspects of the construction of that box it’s over the water or

41:53if you get the pilots in and dock float uh are you able to continue with

41:59electric gold what’s in water no good question and i’m

42:05honestly to be honest with you i’m not exactly sure but i’m hoping that we can do everything on the dock

42:11even off the window off the whitfish window but i i’m not positive but as you

42:17say i believe it’s the construction of the dock and get the pilings in everything else

42:27well this was our last slide and it was uh we’re working still with excel tech right now for the tenant restroom that’s

42:33since 1970 but from getting there uh the adaptive purpose with the dry stack

42:39storage that’s being looked at with the coordination with the city’s landside development and the project in the

42:44marina steps that phase two is the replacement of the sea wall and the utilities heading south

42:51south towards anthony’s and the extension of the promenade meaning what it looks like in front of the marina

42:56office is what we want it to look like all the way down to the backside of anthony’s with plants and benches and

43:02wide sidewalks that’s what it’s looking like now going around the north parking lot so i’m really excited for that

43:09and then in phase three we’ll be doing some dock repatients of the smaller docks and things like that

43:15we have a few other projects on uh on our marina master plan it talks about the stairwell there’s links there for

43:21all the for the stairwell project and some other things so please go to our marine or website and click on one of those and

43:27take a look yes bill uh

43:33will the sections

43:39coincide with the phase two phase three or if you’re gonna lay the seymour all at one time in that project see i

43:46personally so i’m not sure yet because that is ten years down the road but personally i’d love to see this entire

43:52seawall be repaired first with the promenade and get the utilities all the way down the whole thing and do that

43:58because then we can understand where the new docks come in where the abutments on that wall would be

44:03better

44:13dry sheds will be going away well the question is so our open stackables is that off the

44:20table uh actually the all-purpose building is is a covered structure with covered dry stack in it and if we find

44:28that it becomes popular enough we have that space from the dry stack heading down towards the back side of caesar

44:35where we could still look at open dry stack against the wall well i’m not going to go up to your

44:41condo

44:48yes

44:55i’m not quite positive but i believe there’s shooting for late october but i’m not positive i’m am

45:01i close yeah i’m not i’m not super positive i know the restrooms going up as you can see there uh i think 99 of the concrete

45:09has been poured and then so once they get all that in get all the sidewalks in get all the railings up and then resurface the whole

45:16parking lot and restripe everything will be good but i i’ve heard october but i

45:21don’t hold me to that yes so there’s no timeline for the new

45:28tenant i got i got some stuff back from excel tech about two weeks ago that gave me

45:35some costs for design and some other things but they’re the one building the north restroom right now so everybody’s

45:41been kind of busy so i do not have the exact timeline i am still looking for that to be

45:47unisex stalls a porta potty dump and a small laundry facility on the back side that’s

45:53what i want yes bill

46:12yes sir

46:18good question until until we uh

46:24that’s a good question and i’ll write that down because i’m not quite positive you know we want to get that all-purpose

46:30building built in with the dry stack in there and that’s the space part of it will be so that would be the time and

46:35plus some of the smaller boats would go into the dry stack if we were when we replaced those small slips with larger

46:41slips our primary focus is on the threshold right now

46:46yes

46:59the parking gates real quick that we can speak about that real quick the parking gates right now we’re still waiting for parts for that part supply those chips

47:06and different things that your car is waiting for we’re still waiting for those so that’s why they are in the up

47:11position during the day they get put down by security by anthony’s in the evening time anthony’s is waiting for a new validator

47:18which we’re all waiting for so we can have those down in the daytime and they can go back to validating the beach bar

47:24gates are back down and the ones in the north lot are up right now because we have so much construction going in and out

47:30so i’m waiting on parts

47:36are so much fun yeah

47:41this was essentially this was this was the easy group but people that didn’t come i think might have tore my head off

47:51with some um the other material that was out there like the master plan if there are other questions

47:57that people think of about this presentation can you manage that little question q a process where the question

48:04comes in and get posted yes please yes i mean please we

48:10encourage we encourage the questions we’ve gotten you know and having it on the website that way everybody gets to

48:15go there and see the answer and the question so no love too yes sir documents available

48:21i’m sorry sir the 45 right now we’re just reviewing them

48:28right now so as soon as we get them done with review and everything else we’ll probably get those on our on our website

48:33also yes yes dad i don’t know either

48:41oh yeah no more covey no more kobe right

48:48we’re in the office i will say that we are definitely in the office hi cheryl um

49:02of us that are on there do we need to like make plans to move forward when it happens move our boat somewhere

49:09or do you have a plan to ship this somewhere yeah yeah you might have came in a little

49:14late for our transitioning you know we’re not sure exactly exactly how that’s going to work but we have some

49:20ideas that we’ll be working through and that and really quickly some of you heard it i’m hoping that all of our ndoc

49:26tenants can go over to guest mortgage maybe some of them will go up into paul’s yard to have their their you know

49:32yearly maintenance done some of them might go on vacation in september for a month or two

49:38sorry some of them might go on vacation for some time and then when dot gets rebuilt

49:44i’d like to bring all the m doc people to n so that one can get done and then you

49:49know then the l doc people can go to m so that one can get done and then we reverse the process

49:55it’s not going to be perfect yeah well that’s my plan let’s hope it

50:01works

50:08well i you know i thought about that but you know you have so many different boat sizes and everything else and we might be really putting people in tight into

50:14guest mortgage and once they’re there they might stay there a little bit but that doesn’t mean that’s the plan

50:23correct yeah but we have a few more on mdoc

50:28so so i need to put those and then find space for a few of them that that are

50:34still around but it’s todd okay

50:48[Music] wood whatever but a third of my boats

50:55hanging out but it just happens that you know what we can get a little waiver for that because it’s convenient for

51:00everybody during construction yeah that’s what i’m saying you know it’s not a perfect world right you might put a bigger boat in a smaller slip

51:07i mean if it doesn’t impede if it doesn’t impede on on fairways and different things you know if if we need

51:12a spot and there’s a spot open that we can squish into for for a moment’s time i think that’d be a great idea

51:33your current rate or whatever that rate the current right hate microphones the

51:38current rate or that rate at this time would it would stay the same when we would put we put you in guest mortgage

51:43we’re just going to try to keep the keep everything as is money flowing and different things

51:49we’ve got to still operate

52:00but just real quick there was a talk about really making

52:05standards uh as far as the length like product when we get to the new thing

52:10like 40 foot is 40 foot or a little bit under but you’re not going to give me

52:1610 yeah yes the 10 is going away so your your

52:21boat is how big mark overall tip to tip 38 so on mdoc we’re going to have we’re

52:28going to have 40 foot slips 42 foot slips 46 foot slips 48 foot slips so you will fall

52:36into one of those categories yes so if you’re over 50 we and if you’re over

52:4350 then you’re going to be looking at an end tie or if there’s room to move over

52:48to ndoc which will have the 52 foot slips so there’s going to be some shuffling

52:54you shouldn’t be over 50 on mdoc by the way okay

53:13so now on yes docks like calallen you’re not going to have all 40s

53:19all 36 is all 50s they’re going to be different sizes on the docks yes

53:24and that’s because that’s that’s that’s to get rid

53:30of that overhang that 10 overhang so everybody is equal with their their finger so there’s no more overhang

53:37there’s no more impeding into the into the into the fairways things like that so everybody will be in their space

53:45correct correct and no i know you’re thinking but how does

53:52that affect the other side yeah yeah so that’s and that’s why the other side there’s there’s room to change those

53:58docks so if this 48 out here on the end now this one over here on end that could be one of those 42.

54:04so we still have it just slightly and then for endoc like i say arm l doc

54:12it’s going to get transitioned a little bit south okay so uh 52 is going to be the biggest on

54:19hand yes

54:32we’ll have to do a measurement out there and you know we might be looking more of an entire if that’s if that’s what’s

54:37going to happen but we’ll have to we’ll have to assess that does your boat have the dinghy on it right now and and does it have

54:46yeah so we’d have to we’d have to measure re-measure and i’m sure there’s a lot of people we’re going to have to measure to help them get into proper

54:52slips 55 yes sir

54:59now are all three here’s going to be the same length now at the at the beginning there

55:06off the sea wall or at the other end at the opposite end you know i don’t have

55:13one yeah yeah yeah you know i don’t have the exact

55:20layout here so i can’t say that did we write that one down the design’s still being worked out so

55:26i’m not quite positive yet sorry i wish i had a better answer

55:42yeah yeah but with no with without people having any 10 overhangs and everything else if we do move it a

55:47little bit we should be good will the overhead be eliminated

55:55yes well when endocrine

56:02ldoc is going to be ldoc until we replace it so until it gets replaced

56:10until their dock is replaced

56:24i don’t hope i hope it’s months i don’t want no not years i want i want

56:29someone to come in and say you know you have a work window of what september october november january six months

56:34seven months i would love to see somebody come in and say okay we’re going to rip this dock out in a week

56:40because i want it to go out in huge chunks and then we’re going to float the dock that’s already been built in

56:46drive the pile and then it’s hooking up utilities

56:51no no no no i want this to be

56:56as painless as it’s going to be february 15th

57:10five minutes so that’s essentially our presentation

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